tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5973847960035657050.post8159498464139332777..comments2023-10-27T22:42:35.637+09:00Comments on Tokyo Scum Brigade: Madoka Magica: Growing from Chara to Character and Beyondvoidmarehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09994085039674279932noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5973847960035657050.post-35111499016512327392023-01-06T08:39:39.471+09:002023-01-06T08:39:39.471+09:00Madoka is overhyped drivel...Madoka is overhyped drivel...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5973847960035657050.post-39482063086937768372012-07-05T21:32:55.430+09:002012-07-05T21:32:55.430+09:00Actually I think you misunderstand my critique of ...Actually I think you misunderstand my critique of Madoka a smidgen.<br /><br />I do not have any inherent objection to moe which you seem to view as a purely stylistic choice. To me I hate what moe stems from, which is to say pandering.<br /><br />You might be correct in moe being used as a hook to bring people in. No different really than Tarantino or other overrated directors using faux cheezy Kamiboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17070558290345696566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5973847960035657050.post-75323773149563920142012-07-05T15:52:30.334+09:002012-07-05T15:52:30.334+09:00Thank you for sticking it out through the end desp...Thank you for sticking it out through the end despite your obvious discomfort with the show. I'm not going to argue with your reasons for disliking it as a lot of it boils down to personal taste and suspension of disbelief, but I think you are approaching its designs and reception from the wrong direction.<br /><br />Namely, "moe" is not synonymous with lolicon or cheesecake. Its DrSenbeihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01006371256407371310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5973847960035657050.post-15057899773808514162012-07-04T01:48:12.779+09:002012-07-04T01:48:12.779+09:00If other shows which do no make such decadent use ...If other shows which do no make such decadent use of the moe database can have emotional impact then why did Madoka have to go out of its way to smear itself ugly with moe? To surprise? Surprise who exactly?<br /><br />Any connoisseur would dismiss it out of hand for too closely resembling the trash which years of experience has taught them to stray far from. It certainly also would be a hard Kamiboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17070558290345696566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5973847960035657050.post-83370496274297817522012-07-04T01:47:42.098+09:002012-07-04T01:47:42.098+09:00It is exactly the psychological effect that deters...It is exactly the psychological effect that deters me from moe, but then my brain is wired to trigger a different response when confronted with the moe database of tropes.<br /><br />To me the presence of such elements equal pandering, pure and simple. When my mind is set to consume a piece of entertainment any detected element that falls into the pandering category is a strike against it.<br /><Kamiboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17070558290345696566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5973847960035657050.post-20109971995164558192012-07-01T22:51:52.999+09:002012-07-01T22:51:52.999+09:00Moe is like terrorism; the psychological effect is...Moe is like terrorism; the psychological effect is the real danger. In practice, Madoka is about as sexy as Pretty Cure, which is to say not at all. (Unless you're going out of your way to find it!) You'll be too engrossed in the lighting, architecture, and bizarro paper cut-out monsters to get squicked out. <br /><br />As an original IP, I think Madoka stands on the same level with all DrSenbeihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01006371256407371310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5973847960035657050.post-50883141424152696622012-06-29T01:55:46.185+09:002012-06-29T01:55:46.185+09:00I keep hearing good things about Madoka but true t...I keep hearing good things about Madoka but true to your example I was repulsed by the entire show just from a glance at the cast, in all their lolified moe glory.<br /><br />They were a visual amalgamation of everything that turns me off of anime, especially TV anime these days and has me regard the mid to late 90's as the high point of the medium with shows like Evangelion, Giant Robo, Kamiboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17070558290345696566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5973847960035657050.post-66425117013394292912011-05-24T21:50:32.039+09:002011-05-24T21:50:32.039+09:00Fernando:
In retrospect I might have given the gir...Fernando:<br />In retrospect I might have given the girls too much credit. Even so, they manage to throw out some great moral quandaries that far outlive their screen time. Miki's selfishness disguised as altruism, or Kyoko's views on power and privilege, are more relevant thinking exercises than Eva's naval-gazing self loathing (Don't get me wrong, I love Eva, but there's a DrSenbeihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01006371256407371310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5973847960035657050.post-50003977930215771212011-05-23T19:32:15.683+09:002011-05-23T19:32:15.683+09:00Very interesting analysis yet that's almost ex...Very interesting analysis yet that's almost exactly why I felt that Madoka's weakest point was its characters. <br /><br />Whereas Shinji and the Eva gang can (and has been shown to) be able to exist outside the trappings of robot battles and even existential angst, I felt that Madoka's characters, when removed from their context of being pawns in The Dark Side of Sailor Moon (perhapsFernando Ramoshttp://www.mroutside.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5973847960035657050.post-4446107766823991782011-04-27T08:50:52.224+09:002011-04-27T08:50:52.224+09:00astrange:
Good point, if I'm referring to the ...astrange:<br />Good point, if I'm referring to the other characters by their first names I should be consistent. <br /><br />rougebardmedia:<br />I've noticed the term floating around for a while not amongst Japanese manga critics. It seems like an old concept that people have only recently been calling out since moe took over everything.<br /><br />Recently I've been reading Tezuka DrSenbeihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01006371256407371310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5973847960035657050.post-44549005395041374832011-04-27T08:14:12.400+09:002011-04-27T08:14:12.400+09:00I've never come across the term Chara before. ...I've never come across the term Chara before. Where does that whole idea stem from?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5973847960035657050.post-7858997271055271702011-04-27T00:17:19.301+09:002011-04-27T00:17:19.301+09:00You appear to have misspelled "Kyouko" a...You appear to have misspelled "Kyouko" as "Sakura". My apologies for the brief comment.astrangehttp://2chan.usnoreply@blogger.com